By Charles Pratt, University City

Your right. I vote against the 2-tier system. We should go to 1-tear and convert everone to a 401K style of system. Get rid of the defined benefit.

Posted by Mike | reply to this comment
June 26, 2008 2:41 pm

The stupidest part of Colonel Sanders plan exempting Public Safety is that THEY ARE THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, they are the one most responsible for bankupting the system, so it does not make any sense to slam the regular employees who are getting far less in pay and pensions(unless they are in the SPSP scam). Sanders is here for 4 more years, and my predicition is he will do nothing-and punt all the problems onto whoever is elected Mayor in 2012. I also agree with the #1 reponse post, 401K's for ALL city workers!

Posted by Billy Bob Henry | reply to this comment
June 26, 2008 5:09 pm

I agree with Mike. Everyone should be on the same system, either a 401K, or only 1% of salary for every year worked, which would be 30% after 30 years, with a minimum retirement age of 62, just like SS.

Posted by Billy Bob Henry | reply to this comment
June 26, 2008 9:53 pm

The more we learn about Scott Peters, the better it gets. NOT!!! I say we activate the "Time Machine" forward five months or so and get Peters out of here just as quickly as we can. I feel sorry for the folks up in District 1.

Posted by Robert | reply to this comment
June 27, 2008 7:34 am

If you want the same pay and/or benefits as a police officer or firefighter, become a police officer or firefighter. Every position is different and should be compensated accordingly depending on a number of factors. Your example of the retail clerks uion is a poor one. Should the people in a hospital payroll department be compensated the same as the doctors? Should the janitor? Typical liberal/socialist thinking.

Posted by Steve | reply to this comment
June 27, 2008 9:02 am

Equity schmequity. The problem is that the City of San Diego pension system is currently comparable to or "worse" than all other jurisdictions in the region. What you'll get with this proposal is a city that is staffed by inexperienced employees who will move on to a public sector (yes I said public sector) job in another jurisdiction with a better pension system once they get the City of San Diego experience needed to win that job. It still amazes me that the media has never written a story comparing pension benefits among local jurisdictions.

Posted by Bevo | reply to this comment
June 27, 2008 5:39 pm

6. Bevo wrote on June 27, 2008 6:39 PM: What you'll get with this proposal is a city that is staffed by inexperienced employees who will move on to a public sector (yes I said public sector) job in another jurisdiction with a better pension system once they get the City of San Diego experience needed to win that job. It still amazes me that the media has never written a story comparing pension benefits among local jurisdictions." ....AHHH..THE "SKY IS FALLING" CLAIM WE HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN. SORRY, NOT WORKING THIS TIME AROUND.

Posted by Billy Bob Henry | reply to this comment
June 28, 2008 9:13 pm

I notice you didn't quote nor did you disagree with my posit that the City of San Diego's retirement program is currently comparable to or "worse" than all other jurisdictions in the region. What say you on that and why not advocate for a story on that?

Posted by Bevo | reply to this comment
July 1, 2008 7:57 pm

If you supported the living wage ordinance, you either don't have any idea what it is or, well, I can't think of an alternative nice enough to say in polite company.

Posted by Algernon | reply to this comment
July 1, 2008 8:59 pm

Ok Steve - so police officers and firefighters are the "doctors" of the City employment ranks??? You crack me up! Given the revised recruiting standards, I would say they are closer to the janitor level.

Posted by Mansker! | reply to this comment
July 3, 2008 11:43 am

BBH - why no response to Bevo's question? Oh, yeah...if you can't come up with some sort of pithy (in your own mind) response, you just ignore it since the facts themselves can't be refuted. Bevo is right in asking for the media to present a comparison of salary/benefits among the local jurisdictions. I beleive the critics of the city of SD would also welcome such a study because it would show how excessive the pay and benefits are...right?

Posted by Hank | reply to this comment
July 3, 2008 8:15 pm

Mansker...I didn't say they were doctors or anything of the like. The Police are desperatly trying to hire qualified candidates and don't seem to be able to find enough. City workers are easily replaced. If you want to earn a police officers salary then apply and become a police officer. It's that simple. The days of you crying so loud you get the same benefits as a peace officer of firefighter are over. Nobody wants to hear from you anymore.

Posted by Steve | reply to this comment
July 6, 2008 2:46 pm

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